Comments on: : Make no mistakes… http://rhetorica.net/archives/2615.html Wed, 21 Jul 2010 13:07:08 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Mark A. York http://rhetorica.net/archives/2615.html/comment-page-1#comment-2718 Mark A. York Wed, 29 Sep 2004 17:09:31 +0000 http://localhost/wpp3/?p=2615#comment-2718 And spin is where the Bush machine is at their best. It works because of the generalist assertions devoid of details. To Bush any convoluted sylogism can and has worked. And spin is where the Bush machine is at their best. It works because of the generalist assertions devoid of details. To Bush any convoluted sylogism can and has worked.

]]> By: acline http://rhetorica.net/archives/2615.html/comment-page-1#comment-2717 acline Wed, 29 Sep 2004 06:55:22 +0000 http://localhost/wpp3/?p=2615#comment-2717 V- I agree that the concpet of "win" is complex in this situation. V- I agree that the concpet of “win” is complex in this situation.

]]> By: Charles Knell http://rhetorica.net/archives/2615.html/comment-page-1#comment-2716 Charles Knell Wed, 29 Sep 2004 06:08:04 +0000 http://localhost/wpp3/?p=2615#comment-2716 John Barrymore was infamous for his problem with alchohol. John Barrymore was infamous for his problem with alchohol.

]]> By: bryan http://rhetorica.net/archives/2615.html/comment-page-1#comment-2715 bryan Wed, 29 Sep 2004 05:44:28 +0000 http://localhost/wpp3/?p=2615#comment-2715 If the key to winning is staying "on message," then you could probably predict a win for Bush, who is well versed in that aspect of these televised pony shows. Kerry has his work cut out for him. If the key to winning is staying “on message,” then you could probably predict a win for Bush, who is well versed in that aspect of these televised pony shows. Kerry has his work cut out for him.

]]> By: Vardibidian http://rhetorica.net/archives/2615.html/comment-page-1#comment-2714 Vardibidian Wed, 29 Sep 2004 05:37:44 +0000 http://localhost/wpp3/?p=2615#comment-2714 Notice also, please, that as with the conventions, 'winning' is aimed at the elections, not at the next week. In a way, Senator Kerry's best result is to enrage Bush supporters, slightly annoy hard-core Dems, and impress wavering Ohioans. Which is what he did at the convention. The whole idea that there will be a 'winner' and a 'loser' the next morning is preposterous: the two candidates have different goals, only slightly in conflict. However, if the wavering Ohioan (played by John Barrymore) somehow becomes convinced, after the fact, that one or the other 'won' the debate, that will color his memory of the event itself, which is already pretty iffy since he didn't watch it, and was drunk besides.           , -V. Notice also, please, that as with the conventions, ‘winning’ is aimed at the elections, not at the next week. In a way, Senator Kerry’s best result is to enrage Bush supporters, slightly annoy hard-core Dems, and impress wavering Ohioans. Which is what he did at the convention.
The whole idea that there will be a ‘winner’ and a ‘loser’ the next morning is preposterous: the two candidates have different goals, only slightly in conflict. However, if the wavering Ohioan (played by John Barrymore) somehow becomes convinced, after the fact, that one or the other ‘won’ the debate, that will color his memory of the event itself, which is already pretty iffy since he didn’t watch it, and was drunk besides.

          ,
-V.

]]>