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	<title>Comments on: Well-informed slackers&#8230;</title>
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		<title>By: kold</title>
		<link>http://rhetorica.net/archives/2609.html/comment-page-1#comment-4583</link>
		<dc:creator>kold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Sep 2008 02:45:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like that, stoned slackers; I also like BoR-ing HeeHee You may steal that if you wanna. Nevertheless... Wanna see THE most efficacious, bellicose, avant-garde blog? &quot;Step RITE up!!&quot; yells the carnival barker. Â“We got yur oddest, freeksOnature hereÂ…Â”</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like that, stoned slackers; I also like BoR-ing HeeHee You may steal that if you wanna. Nevertheless&#8230; Wanna see THE most efficacious, bellicose, avant-garde blog? &#8220;Step RITE up!!&#8221; yells the carnival barker. Â“We got yur oddest, freeksOnature hereÂ…Â”</p>
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		<title>By: MWS</title>
		<link>http://rhetorica.net/archives/2609.html/comment-page-1#comment-2713</link>
		<dc:creator>MWS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Sep 2004 09:47:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Different types of humor appeal to different types of people.  Political satire is obviously going to appeal to people with some interest in politics; these are more likely to be more educated and with a distinct position on the issues.  I think there is a certain degree of self-selection here; people that watch the Daily Show like that kind of humor because they know enough about politics to find it funny.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Different types of humor appeal to different types of people.  Political satire is obviously going to appeal to people with some interest in politics; these are more likely to be more educated and with a distinct position on the issues.  I think there is a certain degree of self-selection here; people that watch the Daily Show like that kind of humor because they know enough about politics to find it funny.</p>
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		<title>By: bryan</title>
		<link>http://rhetorica.net/archives/2609.html/comment-page-1#comment-2712</link>
		<dc:creator>bryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Sep 2004 05:53:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you&#039;re right, Dr. Cline. After having listened to the Daily Show&#039;s &quot;Democracy Inaction&quot; book on CD this week, I laughed and laughed. But I also understood most of the jokes to begin with. People who aren&#039;t interested in politics aren&#039;t going to sit through that much political in-joking. 

But that doesn&#039;t mean that the audience *can&#039;t* be stoned slackers. I knew quite a few folks in college who were a) stoned, b) slackers, and c) knew what was going on in politics.

I would compare it - obliquely - to the long-term fascination with Monty Python. The shows were a weird combination of dry humor, slapstick, and social commentary. But they appealed to an odd variety of people for those very reasons.

Plus, I think Jon Stewart&#039;s potty mouth has something to do with it. (think Wonkette)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you&#8217;re right, Dr. Cline. After having listened to the Daily Show&#8217;s &#8220;Democracy Inaction&#8221; book on CD this week, I laughed and laughed. But I also understood most of the jokes to begin with. People who aren&#8217;t interested in politics aren&#8217;t going to sit through that much political in-joking. </p>
<p>But that doesn&#8217;t mean that the audience *can&#8217;t* be stoned slackers. I knew quite a few folks in college who were a) stoned, b) slackers, and c) knew what was going on in politics.</p>
<p>I would compare it &#8211; obliquely &#8211; to the long-term fascination with Monty Python. The shows were a weird combination of dry humor, slapstick, and social commentary. But they appealed to an odd variety of people for those very reasons.</p>
<p>Plus, I think Jon Stewart&#8217;s potty mouth has something to do with it. (think Wonkette)</p>
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		<title>By: acline</title>
		<link>http://rhetorica.net/archives/2609.html/comment-page-1#comment-2711</link>
		<dc:creator>acline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2004 11:53:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Charles... I went from the transcript. And, yes, he certainly could have been simply ribbing Stewart. He mentions the stoners a few times and even says he has the numbers to back it up (almost certainly ribbing). I suspect from the textual evidence that O&#039;Reilly was being both humorous (in presentation) and serious (in intent). That is obviously my interpretation and could be completely wrong.

I&#039;m certainly taking a swipe at O&#039;Reilly--an easy target. But, in any case, he&#039;s not the point here. What&#039;s interesting is the contention that fans of The Daily Show are well informed. And I think I know one of the reasons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charles&#8230; I went from the transcript. And, yes, he certainly could have been simply ribbing Stewart. He mentions the stoners a few times and even says he has the numbers to back it up (almost certainly ribbing). I suspect from the textual evidence that O&#8217;Reilly was being both humorous (in presentation) and serious (in intent). That is obviously my interpretation and could be completely wrong.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m certainly taking a swipe at O&#8217;Reilly&#8211;an easy target. But, in any case, he&#8217;s not the point here. What&#8217;s interesting is the contention that fans of The Daily Show are well informed. And I think I know one of the reasons.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles Knell</title>
		<link>http://rhetorica.net/archives/2609.html/comment-page-1#comment-2710</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles Knell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2004 11:31:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you heard the O&#039;Reilly comment with your own ears, then you apparently heard something that AP didn&#039;t (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6117542/). According to this story, O&#039;Reilly&#039;s comment was a case of ribbing the guest and not meant to be taken as a serious accusation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you heard the O&#8217;Reilly comment with your own ears, then you apparently heard something that AP didn&#8217;t (<a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6117542/" rel="nofollow">http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6117542/</a>). According to this story, O&#8217;Reilly&#8217;s comment was a case of ribbing the guest and not meant to be taken as a serious accusation.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles Knell</title>
		<link>http://rhetorica.net/archives/2609.html/comment-page-1#comment-2709</link>
		<dc:creator>Charles Knell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2004 10:26:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Two former actors became governor of California (one of whom later became a very popular President) and a former pro wrestler became governor of Minnesota (to the perpetual embarassment of Garrison Keilor). One former actor and dancer became a Senator from California and one former and future actor became a Senator from Tennessee (you can see him every week on Law &amp; Order). You may not take them (or Bill O&#039;Reilly) seriously, but a great many of your fellow citizens do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Two former actors became governor of California (one of whom later became a very popular President) and a former pro wrestler became governor of Minnesota (to the perpetual embarassment of Garrison Keilor). One former actor and dancer became a Senator from California and one former and future actor became a Senator from Tennessee (you can see him every week on Law &#038; Order). You may not take them (or Bill O&#8217;Reilly) seriously, but a great many of your fellow citizens do.</p>
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		<title>By: Keith Sader</title>
		<link>http://rhetorica.net/archives/2609.html/comment-page-1#comment-2708</link>
		<dc:creator>Keith Sader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2004 10:15:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know I find it hard to take anything the former anchor of _Inside Edition_ says seriously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know I find it hard to take anything the former anchor of _Inside Edition_ says seriously.</p>
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		<title>By: acline</title>
		<link>http://rhetorica.net/archives/2609.html/comment-page-1#comment-2707</link>
		<dc:creator>acline</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2004 08:19:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>O&#039;Reilly&#039;s comment says nothing about viewers. Of course people drink while watching a late-night comedy show :-) I certainly do!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>O&#8217;Reilly&#8217;s comment says nothing about viewers. Of course people drink while watching a late-night comedy show <img src='http://rhetorica.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  I certainly do!</p>
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		<title>By: kai</title>
		<link>http://rhetorica.net/archives/2609.html/comment-page-1#comment-2706</link>
		<dc:creator>kai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Sep 2004 06:57:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read the transcript of Jon Stewart on OReilly, and one statement that stuck out (by OReilly, of course): 

&quot;Eighty-seven percent are intoxicated when they watch it [The Daily Show].&quot;

Perhaps it&#039;s true, if so, i&#039;ve been missing out! But I&#039;m skeptical and a quick internet search couldn&#039;t confirm it.  Anyway, it immediately reminded me of the ever-wise words of Homer Simpson:

&quot;Oh, people can come up with statistics to prove anything, Kent. 14% of people know that.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read the transcript of Jon Stewart on OReilly, and one statement that stuck out (by OReilly, of course): </p>
<p>&#8220;Eighty-seven percent are intoxicated when they watch it [The Daily Show].&#8221;</p>
<p>Perhaps it&#8217;s true, if so, i&#8217;ve been missing out! But I&#8217;m skeptical and a quick internet search couldn&#8217;t confirm it.  Anyway, it immediately reminded me of the ever-wise words of Homer Simpson:</p>
<p>&#8220;Oh, people can come up with statistics to prove anything, Kent. 14% of people know that.&#8221;</p>
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