Comments on: The good citizen… http://rhetorica.net/archives/1621.html Fri, 12 Mar 2010 13:50:12 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Keith Sader http://rhetorica.net/archives/1621.html/comment-page-1#comment-1353 Keith Sader Thu, 25 Sep 2003 07:39:59 +0000 http://localhost/wpp3/?p=1621#comment-1353 Hmm, I wonder if there's a 'snarky' smiley. One comment, multiple paragraphs of response. I troll well. :-D Hmm, I wonder if there’s a ’snarky’ smiley. One comment, multiple paragraphs of response. I troll well. :-D

]]> By: Rebecca http://rhetorica.net/archives/1621.html/comment-page-1#comment-1352 Rebecca Wed, 24 Sep 2003 10:29:42 +0000 http://localhost/wpp3/?p=1621#comment-1352 I found this in the Romenesko's Letters section from someone named Tom Nord: "My guess is that Bush said what he said because he knows journalists are rather sensitive souls, and nothing gets their goat worse than the thought that their precious prose is being ignored by the guy in the Oval Office." This sounds about right to me, although I think the JFK model of co-opting the press might be more effective. I found this in the Romenesko’s Letters section from someone named Tom Nord: “My guess is that Bush said what he said because he knows journalists are rather sensitive souls, and nothing gets their goat worse than the thought that their precious prose is being ignored by the guy in the Oval Office.” This sounds about right to me, although I think the JFK model of co-opting the press might be more effective.

]]> By: acline http://rhetorica.net/archives/1621.html/comment-page-1#comment-1351 acline Tue, 23 Sep 2003 17:06:24 +0000 http://localhost/wpp3/?p=1621#comment-1351 Gray...the President certainly does not need any insights from me. But I must disagree regarding reading a newspaper. And I must agree that, at times, I can be quite condescending towards those in power who do not measure up to my arbitrary standards. It's a problem. Jay...I do not mean to suggest that he's ineffective, only that I believe he does himself and his nation a disservice by not reading a newspaper more closely. But, you're quite correct that his news habits make him much like the rest of us. Keith... :-) Gray…the President certainly does not need any insights from me. But I must disagree regarding reading a newspaper. And I must agree that, at times, I can be quite condescending towards those in power who do not measure up to my arbitrary standards. It’s a problem.

Jay…I do not mean to suggest that he’s ineffective, only that I believe he does himself and his nation a disservice by not reading a newspaper more closely. But, you’re quite correct that his news habits make him much like the rest of us.

Keith… :-)

]]> By: Gray http://rhetorica.net/archives/1621.html/comment-page-1#comment-1350 Gray Tue, 23 Sep 2003 16:40:04 +0000 http://localhost/wpp3/?p=1621#comment-1350 Dear Sir: I find you quite condescending regarding the chief executive of the US. I have worked for organizations where the executive read summaries of many different news papers and only on rare occasions did they read the source themselves, and they were well informed. Quite frankly I read the Wall Street Journal, Skim the NY Times and Washington Post each day and I am pleased that the President does not waste his time doing like wise. I guess I consider the news reading I do as a hobby but I takes about an hour or two to read what I do. I fully expect that an executive as effective as GW Bush would find folks who he trusted to review the news and to summarize accordingly. I guess the primary thing to understand about GW Bush is that he is comfortable in his skin. He does not care what people say about him. He does not care that the average story in the 'Paper of Record' contains as much editorial comment as news reporting. All the same he does not care that the Wall Street Journal or Rush Limbaugh are on many occasions giving him down the road because he has compromised with Dems in contradiction of the Conservative orthodoxy. The bottom line is that most people Libs or NeoCons, Donkeys or Elephants like him, trust him. If he did read your well done blog it would be because he enjoyed reading not because he needed guidence from your deep insights on rhetoric. I love your site!!!!!! Dear Sir:

I find you quite condescending regarding the chief executive of the US. I have worked for organizations where the executive read summaries of many different news papers and only on rare occasions did they read the source themselves, and they were well informed. Quite frankly I read the Wall Street Journal, Skim the NY Times and Washington Post each day and I am pleased that the President does not waste his time doing like wise. I guess I consider the news reading I do as a hobby but I takes about an hour or two to read what I do. I fully expect that an executive as effective as GW Bush would find folks who he trusted to review the news and to summarize accordingly.

I guess the primary thing to understand about GW Bush is that he is comfortable in his skin. He does not care what people say about him. He does not care that the average story in the ‘Paper of Record’ contains as much editorial comment as news reporting. All the same he does not care that the Wall Street Journal or Rush Limbaugh are on many occasions giving him down the road because he has compromised with Dems in contradiction of the Conservative orthodoxy.

The bottom line is that most people Libs or NeoCons, Donkeys or Elephants like him, trust him. If he did read your well done blog it would be because he enjoyed reading not because he needed guidence from your deep insights on rhetoric.

I love your site!!!!!!

]]> By: Jay Manifold http://rhetorica.net/archives/1621.html/comment-page-1#comment-1349 Jay Manifold Tue, 23 Sep 2003 15:45:13 +0000 http://localhost/wpp3/?p=1621#comment-1349 As I replied to a correspondent after the incident described at http://avoyagetoarcturus.blogspot.com/2002_06_01_avoyagetoarcturus_archive.html#85205357, one of the risks of representative democracy is that every once in a while we elect somebody who really is a lot like the rest of us. ;) So while I appreciate Keith's sentiment, it's not clear that skimming the news and relying on others to provide relevant details necessarily implies overall ineffectiveness. As I replied to a correspondent after the incident described at http://avoyagetoarcturus.blogspot.com/2002_06_01_avoyagetoarcturus_archive.html#85205357, one of the risks of representative democracy is that every once in a while we elect somebody who really is a lot like the rest of us. ;)

So while I appreciate Keith’s sentiment, it’s not clear that skimming the news and relying on others to provide relevant details necessarily implies overall ineffectiveness.

]]> By: Keith Sader http://rhetorica.net/archives/1621.html/comment-page-1#comment-1348 Keith Sader Tue, 23 Sep 2003 12:42:52 +0000 http://localhost/wpp3/?p=1621#comment-1348 He'd have to get someone to spell Rhetorica for him Andy. He’d have to get someone to spell Rhetorica for him Andy.

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